For most beginners I’d recommend a rider with a 32 inch inseam to get a bike with a seat 30 inches high or lower. I've ridden both on the track and they're sporty and upright. As you might guess, a much larger percentage of my height is made of legs and a much larger percentage of his height is made of torso. I worked with Klaus at EPM to get a bit of lowering with a Hyper pro shock spring/fork springs and raising the forks, having the sag set properly, and not have the hugger hitting. At 5'7" and a 32" (~812mm) inseam I was able to ride a KLR. no gradeWhen you come to a stop be aware that a grade in the road or a pothole where you put your foot down may cause the bike to lean more than normal, or your foot not to hit the ground when you anticipate. It's not too bad. That being said, the Versys is tall, particularly when you add in the foot peg placement. I’m 5′3″ (160 cm). I had lowered it with Speedy's link, then I could flat-foot it. I really appreciate it. I'm a road cyclist (fairly strong legs), who also has decent core and upper body strength. I was barely able to tiptoe both sides, I generally had to lean the bike slightly and flatfoot on one side. That's a large part of why this bike appeals to me. As a general rule and within bike styles, smaller engine bikes tend to be a bit shorter, but seat height varies a lot between different styles of bikes. I had a '99 VFR at my disposal. I have a Sargent on my BMW, and I'm OK with it. A good way to gauge whether or not a bike might be too high for you is to get your inseam measurement from your pants and remove about an inch and a half or two inches. If the bike for has a standover height of 28 inches and your inseam measurement is 30 inches, then you can easily balance on the bike and the crossbar will not injure you in case of a sudden stop. There is a greater degree toward the ground on the left hand side and consequently the ground is further away. If I made it softer, it might help in that regard. So here are my answers, which I hope come across respectfully. Thanks for the insight. Sort of like asking if a particular dish is spicy differs between most mortals, and me. The Gen 3 2015 rear suspension is a bit stiff for my preferences. Tippy toes is not optimal especially with a heavy bike, after coming to a stop and leaning the bike it can gain momentum toward the ground if you don’t have most of your foot there to stop it you might drop the bike and catch yourself underneath. He’s 6′5″ (196 cm). I own both of these bikes (DL1000 V Strom and Versys), both OEM seats and both gel seats. (FYI according to bikez the KLR's seat height is 43.3"/870mm) The height was intimidating, but after a few rides I … Dual Sport and Enduro motorcycles as a group have the highest seat height to accommodate the extra clearance they have for off road capabilities, and their seat height generally ranges from 31.5 inches and up. I might make a 30" inseam, by the boringly old fashioned way of measuring it, and ride with a 29-3/8" seat height (crank axle centre to saddle top, up the seat tube centreline). The XR650L is a tall bike but it's got a wider tranny spacing {got tired of swapping sprockets for hwy/rock duty}, it's marginally lighter and it got a larger aftermarket I think. Fun fact: My husband and I both wear a 30 inch inseam. I'm 6 ft. tall with a 32 inch inseam. My inseam is probably 32" but I'm not really sure how everyone is defining inseam. Also, your bike will gather more momentum toward the ground and also be heavier to hold up since it is leaning more. From what I recall, hard luggage isn't an option for those bikes, and I really wanted a Givi topcase and side bags. JavaScript is disabled. I think part of it, in my case, is the wider Sargent seat, too. No time to look that up right now, I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong! I have been looking at a GS I like with the lower 30 inch seat option, but think that may be too low for me. I’m 5′3″ (160 cm). However, I removed the link and opted to lower it a bit less with Hyperpro springs/ raising the forks. To each his own, The Vs and the Wee Strom have virtually the same seat height (33.1 vs 32.3). I did test the NC 700, and besides the low revving, the gas cap location was a definite DO NOT BUY for me. Those things are part of what I'm thinking about, and what I was thinking when I asked other women about their experiences with the bike. I'd look at that and the FZ-07 as well. I was barely able to tiptoe both sides, I generally had to lean the bike slightly and flatfoot on one side. The suspension did relax some after the first season. I am 155 lbs dripping wet. Motorcycle Seat Height in Inches Motorcycle Model; 30.1 - 32.9 or 32.3: 2012 BMW F 700 GS: 30.1 - 32.9 or 32.3: 2014 BMW F 700 GS: 30.1 - 32.3 or 31.5: 2012 BMW F 800 GT Thus the bike will fall further before you’re able to get your foot on the ground. I do like those other bikes you listed, and have ridden an FZ-07. And yup, static sag is properly set. Motorcycle Seat Height in Inches Motorcycle Model; 30.1 - 32.9 or 32.3: 2012 BMW F 700 GS: 30.1 - 32.9 or 32.3: 2014 BMW F 700 GS: 30.1 - 32.3 or 31.5: 2012 BMW F 800 GT I know one person's "spicy" is my "is that all you got?" Absolutely. The FZ-07 I believe is a parallel twin. :grin2: I understand your questions, and I respect your opinions that elicit those questions. What are you going to do when you stop at an intersection and there is a dip in the road where you want to put your foot? Right after I purchased my Versys in '13, the FZ-09 came out. The FZ-09 may be heavier, as I think it's a V4. I'm wondering if I could get some advise on what would be the best seat height for me with a 1200 GS or GSA. It was comfy and handled well, but in comparison to the Versys, it was heavy. What is it about the Versys that is drawing you to it despite the height and weight issues you might have to overcome? Instead of the nearly 2 inch lowering with Speedy's link, it's now about an inch lower. Take this measurement, which is your inseam, and plug it into one of the following formulas depending on the style of bicycle you will be riding. If I load up the luggage with 20 lbs or so of stuff then it will sag enough for me to flat foot it, and the ride smooths out too. For a bicycle with clip in pedals, multiply your inseam by 1.07. But, it's a compromise between being too soft for my liking and being flat-foot. My understanding is that the GS can be had with either a 30 or 33 inch seat height and the GSA with a 35 inch seat height. For a bicycle with clipless pedals, multiply your inseam by 1.09 to get your seat height. The Versys, at 33, while I could have managed, I figured I'd drop it to a height I've been comfortable with. I'm like you in that I really like a sportier ride, but I'd like to be comfortable for all-day riding. The balls of my feet are on the ground and that's not a problem for me. :smile2: Yep...the gas cap is what constituted a complete "no" on my part. Most cruiser motorcycles have seat heights in the range of 26-29 inches high, While standards typically range from 28-31 inches high.