Personally, I base which weapons I level on how much I like their attack animations. It just feels more natural to me but if you can be comfortable with the MSG, go for it. I started NG+ a week ago, and yesterday I manage to get my strength to 50 and dexterity to 41. With 40-40 the C-C scaling is almost the same as a B scaling, and both the clay and bastard have higher AR and DPS than the msgs at almost half the weight. The Man-serpent Greatsword is a greatsword in Dark Souls. Current date/time is Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:42 pm, What's your favourite Fashion Souls load out? If you're only putting points in STR then Man-Serpent Greatsword is a better choice for you. 1 Availability 2 Characteristics 3 Moveset 4 Upgrades 5 Gallery The Claymore is found on a corpse on the bridge in the Undead Burg near the Hellkite Dragon. I'm a filthy casual, and I need help cheesing this game as much as possible. claymore 15 is 257 base C str and C dex. If you'll eventually split equal amount of points in STR/DEX either will work. Clay's better with your stats. Claymore: 103 60: 0 10: 0 40: 0 40: 100 38 : 16 C C+15: 10 C C+15: 0--0--200 6.0: Regular Thrust: Found in the Undead Burg a body on the bridge guarded by Hellkite Wyvern; Man-Serpent Greatsword: 110 60: 0 10: 0 40: 0 40: 100 38 : 24 B A+15: 0--0--0--300 10.0: Regular: Possible drop from Man-Serpent; Flamberge: 100 60: 0 10: 0 40: 0 40: 100 38 Not only is the Claymore more versatile and lighter, it is also stronger. Zweihander and Claymore are famously powerful (though they scale both STR and DEX), Man-Serpent Greatsword is my favorite since it attack pretty fast. I prefer the Claymore for the fact that it has a stabbing motion and that long sweeping motion. For the Dark Souls II variant, see Claymore (Dark Souls II). I leveled the hell out of a lucerne before realizing that I hated the attack animation and that I wasn't as effective with it. RickJamesYies. Claymore is a "quality" weapon, the MSGS is a strength weapon. They both appear to be the same length, but I'm not sure about that. Would you like to react to this message? Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. The Man-Serpent Greatsword at +15 scales an A in strength, as opposed to the C / C scaling in strength and dexterity if the Claymore, so applying a resin to the Man-Serpent Greatsword … Man Serpent Greatsword and Flamberge both drop in Sen's Fortress, from their respective snakemen enemies. I personally think that they can make or break a weapon. I started NG+ a week ago, and yesterday I manage to get my strength to 50 and dexterity to 41. The Claymore is perhaps the most versatile of the greatswords. 1 Availability 2 Characteristics 3 Moveset 4 Upgrades 5 Gallery Uncommonly dropped by the Serpent Soldiers which populate Sen's Fortress and the prison portion of The Duke's Archives. MS greatsword is 275 base A str. The only reason to use the msgs is on a pure strength build, the higher guardbreak or for looks. And yes, BK Greatsword is an Ultra Greatsword, while the BK Sword is a Greatsword. The Claymore has a more versatile moveset, but I think the MSGS may have a higher damage output. by k4Anarky on Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:14 pm. This man speaks the truth. The Claymore and Bastard Sword are also quality options. I have 40 str, so the MSG has better scaling/damage, but it weighs more and doesn't have the Claymore's "long reach" R2 moves. I find more people talking about using the claymore and probably 1 or 2 using the man-serpent one. A greatsword of some kind is worth looking into though as an alternative weapon, they're a bit quicker and (imo) better suited for quicker bosses like O&S. You don't necessarily need a Claymore, could also go for a Black Knight Sword or a Man-serpent Greatsword, both of which would do more damage but have inferior movesets. To balance out the fact that C-C scaling weapons require more investment than A scaling weapons, C-C scaling weapons are stronger than single scaling weapons at the stats 40-40. ". For Dark Souls on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Claymore vs. Man Serpent Greatsword". I think it really depends on which moveset/look you prefer. If you didn't have high Dex the Man-serpent would be better. In the beginning of NG+, I buffed out the Demon Greataxe to +15. I really dont recommend using the claymore on the strength build, however, it is a great choice for a quality build at 28 str and 40 dex. They'll practically do the same damage, and the clay has a better moveset and less weight. by The Letter X on Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:21 pm, by The Letter X on Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:41 pm, by Ghadis_God on Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:02 pm. A more direct comparison to the msgs is the bastard sword, same moveset, faster, but with C-C scaling. If you're a purely strength character, go with neither and get a Man-Serpent Greatsword instead. Want to upgrade both to +15. Claymore VS Manserpent Greatsword. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. The damage on the claymore is decent, but you clearly want something...meatier. For Dark Souls on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "man-serpent greatsword vs claymore". You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. For Dark Souls on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Offline game: Claymore or Black knight greatsword or man serpent great sword? Sep 27, 2013 @ 6:09pm so far best early game weapon i tend to like is the bas tard sword, for damage output it looks like obsidian greatsword is best. Abyss Greatsword is pretty sweet as well. I would say use the BKS until you get the claymore to a high enough lightning or fire level that outclasses the BKS. If you want to trade speed for power, get yourself a Zweihander, or a Black Knight Greatsword. If you are a faith/int character, go with the claymore and make it occult/enchanted for an A scaling. Man-Serpent Greatsword has been mentioned, and if you can put up with the R2s, your current Black Knight Sword is very powerful on its own. Post n°1; Claymore VS Manserpent Greatsword . Can you summon people in New Londo Ruins. Originally, I plan to use the … k4Anarky Newbie Posts: 17 Reputation: 0 Join date: 2013-02-11. #6. I like to PVP and I've been using the Claymore for months, but I'm wondering if the MSG is better. k4Anarky. Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue. first time player need help on populating the sorcery slot. For the Dark Souls III variant, see Claymore (Dark Souls III). The Claymore is a greatsword in Dark Souls. If you're primarily going into STR you might consider one of the weapons that scale better with it like the Man Serpent Greatsword (similar to the Claymore but without the stab) -- it drops from the Snake men fighters in Sen's and has an A scaling in STR. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.